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    Ryan Chiechi

    File -> New Manuscript

    Click on "Section heading"

    Click on the first paragraph with the grey text "Start from here."

    Now try to type a Greek character, for example, ยต (alt + m). It will appear in grey to the left of the word "Start" and vanish if you type anything more.

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    Ryan Chiechi

    @mz2 said:

    @Ryan-Chiechi do you mean grant proposals? We have already created all the major NIH and some NSF grant proposals, will be releasing them hopefully in the next few weeks. We have a big list of templates also reported to us through the in-app feedback facility, based on which we'll build more of them.

    Yes, grant proposals.

    I'm sure NIH and NSF templates will be useful for researchers in the US, but the question is about adding headers/footers to the output.

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    Ryan Chiechi

    @mz2 Many grant proposals require a header and/or footer on each page. It would be useful to be able to populate the left, center, and right header/footer (in the output) with some metadata.

    Manuscripts provides a section for proposal templates, but it isn't populated yet. If you plan to take this seriously (and I think you should; the interface of Manuscripts is really perfect for this type of writing) then you should implement some basic formatting tools for proposals. Headers and footers are one, but proposals tend to impose page rather than word limits (and minimum font sizes) so a generic "compact" template (single-space, tight text wrapping) would be very useful.

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    Ryan Chiechi

    There are a lot of cloud manuscript writing tools popping up these days based on turnkey LaTeX/git solutions. One upshot is that they are built around TeX, so they aren't going to have quite so many growing pains with import/export filters. The future will eschew web-based submission tools entirely and allow you to submit from directly within your composition software, which will be features in Manuscripts and cloud services. But for me, the two biggest strengths of local solutions like Manuscripts are security and offline access.

    I have yet to see a cloud manuscript service that supports (straightforward) client side encryption (something that is easy to implement even with Dropbox, etc.) so you are sending all of your potentially sensitive information to a third party and trusting their security model and ability not to be hacked. Personally, if these services would implement browser-based encryption (e.g., where you can share keys with collaborators) I would seriously consider using them. There is also the issue with what happens when they go out of business or you stop paying the monthly fee--you have to be diligent about syncing offline backups. You may also run afoul of your institution's (or publisher's) data management policies, many of which do not even permit the use of cloud-based email services.

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    Ryan Chiechi

    I dug around in there a bit and I can find most things, but not headers and footers; e.g., including my name and the proposal title at the top of each page. I see page numbers, but nothing else.

    Am I just missing them, or have they not been implemented?

    ....not fans of Archer I guess.

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    Ryan Chiechi

    @Paul-Dennis said:

    On my copies of Manuscripts there is no option to insert symbols. The command is greyed out and unavailable to me. This despite the fact I have registered my version and theoretically have Manuscripts Unlimited.
    How can anyone say this is a good start. The programme is slow, is full of bugs and doesn't have any of the key requirements necessary for scientific and academic writing. Even the much vaunted compatibility with Papers doesn't work as it should

    It is greyed out unless the cursor is in a paragraph. For whatever reason you cannot insert Greek symbols into the title or headings, only the text of paragraphs.

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    Ryan Chiechi

    File -> New Manuscript
    Edit -> Paste as -> LaTeX

    Crash.

    Doesn't matter where the cursor is. Text in the clipboard was "\textit{test}"

    OS X 10.11.1

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    Ryan Chiechi

    I want to give Manuscripts a try, but two things stand in my way; I cannot import any of my existing LaTeX manuscripts and none of my co-authors use OS X (but the latter should be solved by import/export, right?). So I thought I'd try writing a proposal, which really benefits from being able to jump around sections, from the clean layout, etc., and I'm the only author.

    Currently there are no templates for proposals. Does that mean that, in order to format my proposal properly (with headers, footers, page numbers, single-spaced, justified text, page limits, etc.) that I will have to export the finished proposal and do all the formatting externally? Or is there a way to control those formatting aspects in the absence of a template?

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    Ryan Chiechi

    @mz2 I just sent two examples by email of LaTeX documents that import something. But the figures, references, tables, math, and bibliography are all broken.

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    Ryan Chiechi

    You absolutely can rearrange sections and change/hide/reorder/rename sections and sub-sections in LaTeX, if you use includes and break up your tex files properly, but the learning curve is too steep for neophytes (e.g., collaborators), which is why I am so excited about the potential for Manuscripts.

    What LaTeX current does do better than anything else is (re) formatting. There is no point in having 1100 templates for journals if you cannot change them after you being writing, regardless of any other factors, because it is a fact of life that papers are rejected, retooled, and re-targeted.

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